Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state ( 3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing brotherhood with you all.
Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true? Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
Or, if they were planted...would you come?
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Attention People of North Dakota
12 messages in this thread |
Started on 2006-05-23
Attention People of North Dakota
From: Lock Wench (lockwench@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-05-23 19:06:04 UTC-07:00
Re: [LbNA] Attention People of North Dakota
From: uneksia (uneksia@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-05-23 23:02:40 UTC-04:00
if i lived any where near north dakota i would come! so plant lock wench,
and some day they will all come.
smile
uneksia
-------Original Message-------
Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to throw a
party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named it "Don't Forgo Fargo"
and asked people to join me in a big planting party. I was amazed at how few
boxes there were in your fair state ( 3, I believe) and I wanted to help
share some letterboxing brotherhood with you all.
Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for a long
time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true? Will this event
be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
Or, if they were planted...would you come?
Lock Wench
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
and some day they will all come.
smile
uneksia
-------Original Message-------
Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to throw a
party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named it "Don't Forgo Fargo"
and asked people to join me in a big planting party. I was amazed at how few
boxes there were in your fair state ( 3, I believe) and I wanted to help
share some letterboxing brotherhood with you all.
Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for a long
time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true? Will this event
be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
Or, if they were planted...would you come?
Lock Wench
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: SpringChick (letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-05-24 11:35:30 UTC
While I am a firm believer in the "plant it and they will come"
axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: Lock Wench (lockwench@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-05-24 08:10:31 UTC-07:00
Well without giving too much away, it was NEVER my intent to drop into North Dakota, scatter some boxes about and leave. I consider myself a very thoughtful and responsible boxer and I believe you could find others that agree. I out a great deal of effort into replacing lost boxes, replanting in better spots, communicating with finders, etc. Heck, I once drove an entire family from Atlanta all around Syracuse on 24 hours notice to help them find boxes...and not just my own!
My intent is to FOSTER letterboxing in that area. This means education. This means nurturing. This means planning and feedback and relationships. I think it is hard for someone who doesn't know me to get their mind around some of my crazier ideas. I have not come up with this idea on a whim. Each and everything I do, I do 100%. I do "go for it." You can rest assured that there is more to this little plan that just throwing a party and leaving boxes scattered around this state. :)
Thanks!
LW
SpringChick wrote:
While I am a firm believer in the "plant it and they will come"
axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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My intent is to FOSTER letterboxing in that area. This means education. This means nurturing. This means planning and feedback and relationships. I think it is hard for someone who doesn't know me to get their mind around some of my crazier ideas. I have not come up with this idea on a whim. Each and everything I do, I do 100%. I do "go for it." You can rest assured that there is more to this little plan that just throwing a party and leaving boxes scattered around this state. :)
Thanks!
LW
SpringChick
While I am a firm believer in the "plant it and they will come"
axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2006-05-24 15:12:57 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "SpringChick"
wrote:
To go into a boxless area
> and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
> boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
> friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
> to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
> more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
> verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
> be missing" reports?
Since Gwen and I have salted a few areas I think planting a few
letterboxes in a boxless area can be a good thing as long as the
planter monitors the clues and updates them with any new information
that they might receive. We have planted in Arizona, Montana, Wyoming,
Oregon(that certainly wasn't boxless), and areas fairly distant in
California. Setting up a few boxes in a boxless area can encourage a
brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Don
wrote:
To go into a boxless area
> and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
> boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
> friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
> to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
> more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
> verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
> be missing" reports?
Since Gwen and I have salted a few areas I think planting a few
letterboxes in a boxless area can be a good thing as long as the
planter monitors the clues and updates them with any new information
that they might receive. We have planted in Arizona, Montana, Wyoming,
Oregon(that certainly wasn't boxless), and areas fairly distant in
California. Setting up a few boxes in a boxless area can encourage a
brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Don
Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: Lock Wench (lockwench@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-05-24 08:28:35 UTC-07:00
A
gwendontoo wrote: Setting up a few boxes in a boxless area can encourage a
brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Exactly. Maybe people in North Dakota read the Smithsonian too, but became discouraged when they only saw 3 boxes in the entire state! That's what happened to me. I was sent the article, looked up my area, and saw 3 boxes for all of Onondaga county. I knew nothing about planting and it didn't even occur to me that I was perfectly capable of planting an interesting box. I figured the hobby would get tedious pretty quickly with so few boxes. So I set it aside. Imagine my surprise 5 years later when I check my area again?!?
Also, I have no intention of being the ONLY planter. I have invited others to join me in this. I don't think maintaining a couple of boxes will be a big deal..even if I someday eventually turn them over to a local. Plenty of more seasoned boxers on here have them scattered across the country and I don't hear any complaints.
LW
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brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Exactly. Maybe people in North Dakota read the Smithsonian too, but became discouraged when they only saw 3 boxes in the entire state! That's what happened to me. I was sent the article, looked up my area, and saw 3 boxes for all of Onondaga county. I knew nothing about planting and it didn't even occur to me that I was perfectly capable of planting an interesting box. I figured the hobby would get tedious pretty quickly with so few boxes. So I set it aside. Imagine my surprise 5 years later when I check my area again?!?
Also, I have no intention of being the ONLY planter. I have invited others to join me in this. I don't think maintaining a couple of boxes will be a big deal..even if I someday eventually turn them over to a local. Plenty of more seasoned boxers on here have them scattered across the country and I don't hear any complaints.
LW
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: SpringChick (letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-05-24 11:34:14 UTC-04:00
Hmmm, perhaps I misinterpretted the part about "a bit planting party" or the part where you indicated you would be making periodic trips to the area to monitor the boxes.
Having been instrumental in seeding an area with boxes and nurturing an otherwise boxless/boxerless environment, I know both how rewarding and how demanding it can be. Living in the area has been a key to the success for me. On the other hand, I have also done this in an area I do not live or frequent as often (about once a year). It has been extremely difficult to stay on top of those boxes and would be impossible without the gracious assistance of a couple newer boxers in that area and others who travel there periodically. I don't think that people understand the amount of perseverance and hands-on participation it requires on a consistent basis until things take off in that area. You asked for opinions and I was only offering what I had learned from personal experience.
As I said, if you feel you have this covered from afar or otherwise have a plan for monitoring the boxes, go for it!
SpringChick
----- Original Message -----
From: Lock Wench
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
Well without giving too much away, it was NEVER my intent to drop into North Dakota, scatter some boxes about and leave. I consider myself a very thoughtful and responsible boxer and I believe you could find others that agree. I out a great deal of effort into replacing lost boxes, replanting in better spots, communicating with finders, etc. Heck, I once drove an entire family from Atlanta all around Syracuse on 24 hours notice to help them find boxes...and not just my own!
My intent is to FOSTER letterboxing in that area. This means education. This means nurturing. This means planning and feedback and relationships. I think it is hard for someone who doesn't know me to get their mind around some of my crazier ideas. I have not come up with this idea on a whim. Each and everything I do, I do 100%. I do "go for it." You can rest assured that there is more to this little plan that just throwing a party and leaving boxes scattered around this state. :)
Thanks!
LW
SpringChick wrote:
While I am a firm believer in the "plant it and they will come"
axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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Having been instrumental in seeding an area with boxes and nurturing an otherwise boxless/boxerless environment, I know both how rewarding and how demanding it can be. Living in the area has been a key to the success for me. On the other hand, I have also done this in an area I do not live or frequent as often (about once a year). It has been extremely difficult to stay on top of those boxes and would be impossible without the gracious assistance of a couple newer boxers in that area and others who travel there periodically. I don't think that people understand the amount of perseverance and hands-on participation it requires on a consistent basis until things take off in that area. You asked for opinions and I was only offering what I had learned from personal experience.
As I said, if you feel you have this covered from afar or otherwise have a plan for monitoring the boxes, go for it!
SpringChick
----- Original Message -----
From: Lock Wench
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
Well without giving too much away, it was NEVER my intent to drop into North Dakota, scatter some boxes about and leave. I consider myself a very thoughtful and responsible boxer and I believe you could find others that agree. I out a great deal of effort into replacing lost boxes, replanting in better spots, communicating with finders, etc. Heck, I once drove an entire family from Atlanta all around Syracuse on 24 hours notice to help them find boxes...and not just my own!
My intent is to FOSTER letterboxing in that area. This means education. This means nurturing. This means planning and feedback and relationships. I think it is hard for someone who doesn't know me to get their mind around some of my crazier ideas. I have not come up with this idea on a whim. Each and everything I do, I do 100%. I do "go for it." You can rest assured that there is more to this little plan that just throwing a party and leaving boxes scattered around this state. :)
Thanks!
LW
SpringChick
While I am a firm believer in the "plant it and they will come"
axiom and have personally seen this work, I think an important part
of what makes it work is the ongoing dedication and perseverance of
an individual or groups of individuals. To go into a boxless area
and plant a bunch of boxes is great, but who will take care of those
boxes once you go home and have left them behind? Who will be the
friendly hometown voice on the other end of the e-mail responding
to "I'm new and I found your box" contact the placer messages? Or
more importantly, who will run around the state at strange hours
verifying boxes in response to newbie "I can't find the box, it must
be missing" reports?
There is significant nurturing of the boxing environment that is
required when getting the hobby off the ground in an area previously
devoid of boxes and boxers. Until there is a network of local
boxers to rely on, this responsibility falls almost singularly to
the person who planted the boxes. As long as you feel you are able
to give this due attention from afar or have this otherwise covered,
go for it. Otherwise, perhaps it is best for North Dakota to
languish a while longer until eventually somebody from North Dakota
is bitten by the letterboxing bug and has the determination to grow
it in their state.
Just my two cents...
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lock Wench
wrote:
>
> Recently, on the Atlasquest boards, I announced that I wanted to
throw a party/event in Fargo, ND during May of 2007. I named
it "Don't Forgo Fargo" and asked people to join me in a big planting
party. I was amazed at how few boxes there were in your fair state (
3, I believe) and I wanted to help share some letterboxing
brotherhood with you all.
>
> Some people expressed concern that they're weren't enough boxers
interested in North Dakota and thought the boxes might languish for
a long time before being visited. So I am wondering, is this true?
Will this event be known as "Lock Wench's Folly?"
>
> Or, if they were planted...would you come?
>
> Lock Wench
>
> Post here or send your opinion to lockwench@... Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: SpringChick (letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-05-24 11:45:27 UTC-04:00
Yes, but I think even more discouraging for a new boxer than the lack of many boxes is seeking boxes that are not well maintained. Over and over again we hear complaints on the list from newer boxers about going out for the first time and looking for a box, only to come up empty-handed. Their frustration is only increased when they contact the placer to find out if the box is active and are told that they placer does not live in the area and cannot confirm the box one way or the other. As people grow in the game and gain experience I think the missing box syndrome is more understood and not quite as discouraging, but to a new boxer and their family, it is often the make or break criteria as to whether they continue in the hobby.
There is a fine line between planting boxes and making sure the boxes are actually available. This is where is becomes not just a matter of planting boxes, but nurturing the boxing environment. This is different than just dropping off a box as you pass through an area on vacation as Don was pointing out.
The key will be getting involvement from boxers in that area and building a network of folks whom you can rely on to help monitor the boxes. Good luck!
SpringChick
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From: Lock Wench
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
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gwendontoo wrote: Setting up a few boxes in a boxless area can encourage a
brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Exactly. Maybe people in North Dakota read the Smithsonian too, but became discouraged when they only saw 3 boxes in the entire state! That's what happened to me. I was sent the article, looked up my area, and saw 3 boxes for all of Onondaga county. I knew nothing about planting and it didn't even occur to me that I was perfectly capable of planting an interesting box. I figured the hobby would get tedious pretty quickly with so few boxes. So I set it aside. Imagine my surprise 5 years later when I check my area again?!?
Also, I have no intention of being the ONLY planter. I have invited others to join me in this. I don't think maintaining a couple of boxes will be a big deal..even if I someday eventually turn them over to a local. Plenty of more seasoned boxers on here have them scattered across the country and I don't hear any complaints.
LW
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There is a fine line between planting boxes and making sure the boxes are actually available. This is where is becomes not just a matter of planting boxes, but nurturing the boxing environment. This is different than just dropping off a box as you pass through an area on vacation as Don was pointing out.
The key will be getting involvement from boxers in that area and building a network of folks whom you can rely on to help monitor the boxes. Good luck!
SpringChick
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
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gwendontoo
brand new boxer that hasn't found any letterboxes and has read about
letterboxing or has heard about it. I think the keys are "a few
letterboxes" and "monitoring" the clues.
Exactly. Maybe people in North Dakota read the Smithsonian too, but became discouraged when they only saw 3 boxes in the entire state! That's what happened to me. I was sent the article, looked up my area, and saw 3 boxes for all of Onondaga county. I knew nothing about planting and it didn't even occur to me that I was perfectly capable of planting an interesting box. I figured the hobby would get tedious pretty quickly with so few boxes. So I set it aside. Imagine my surprise 5 years later when I check my area again?!?
Also, I have no intention of being the ONLY planter. I have invited others to join me in this. I don't think maintaining a couple of boxes will be a big deal..even if I someday eventually turn them over to a local. Plenty of more seasoned boxers on here have them scattered across the country and I don't hear any complaints.
LW
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[LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: rscarpen (letterboxing@atlasquest.com) |
Date: 2006-05-25 15:37:34 UTC
> Yes, but I think even more discouraging for a new boxer than the
> lack of many boxes is seeking boxes that are not well maintained.
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really
need to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't
gotten any visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and
well. It's only when people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't
get closed properly, boxes damaged, and maintenance needed.
The number one danger to letterboxes is actually other letterboxers.
Take them out of the equation and you can easily have long-lasting
boxes with no maintenance required. =)
-- Ryan
> lack of many boxes is seeking boxes that are not well maintained.
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really
need to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't
gotten any visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and
well. It's only when people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't
get closed properly, boxes damaged, and maintenance needed.
The number one danger to letterboxes is actually other letterboxers.
Take them out of the equation and you can easily have long-lasting
boxes with no maintenance required. =)
-- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: SpringChick (letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-05-25 11:58:28 UTC-04:00
Not sure I would agree with that as far as missing boxes... actually was just having a conversation the other day with other letterboxers about how it is strange that sometimes very well hidden boxes in the middle of nowhere with few if any visitors come up missing... we concluded animals, or perhaps because it is so remote it seems so obviously out of place that all it takes is one person to stumble across it and it is history. On the other hand, sometimes those boxes that see a continual stream of visitors and I consistently find peeking out of their hiding places, seem to persevere. I haven't really noticed a pattern one way or the other personally. As far as damage -- yeh, I'll agree with that -- most of it is the result of carelessness.
SpringChick
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From: rscarpen
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
> Yes, but I think even more discouraging for a new boxer than the
> lack of many boxes is seeking boxes that are not well maintained.
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really
need to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't
gotten any visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and
well. It's only when people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't
get closed properly, boxes damaged, and maintenance needed.
The number one danger to letterboxes is actually other letterboxers.
Take them out of the equation and you can easily have long-lasting
boxes with no maintenance required. =)
-- Ryan
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From: rscarpen
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
> Yes, but I think even more discouraging for a new boxer than the
> lack of many boxes is seeking boxes that are not well maintained.
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really
need to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't
gotten any visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and
well. It's only when people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't
get closed properly, boxes damaged, and maintenance needed.
The number one danger to letterboxes is actually other letterboxers.
Take them out of the equation and you can easily have long-lasting
boxes with no maintenance required. =)
-- Ryan
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: (MDHASZ@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-05-25 13:15:41 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 5/25/2006 12:33:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
letterbox@comcast.net writes:
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really need
to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't gotten any
visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and well. It's only when
people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't get closed properly, boxes
damaged, and maintenance needed.
I just always bring extra ziplock bags. Seems logical to me.
DancingStar/Connecticut
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letterbox@comcast.net writes:
It's kind of suprising, but boxes off the beaten path don't really need
to be maintained! =) Seriously. I've planted boxes that haven't gotten any
visitors for YEARS and they always manage to stay dry and well. It's only when
people start finding the box that ZipLocks don't get closed properly, boxes
damaged, and maintenance needed.
I just always bring extra ziplock bags. Seems logical to me.
DancingStar/Connecticut
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Attention People of North Dakota
From: J A R S (ontario_cacher@yahoo.ca) |
Date: 2006-05-25 17:31:15 UTC-04:00
SpringChick wrote:On the other hand, sometimes those boxes that see a continual stream of visitors and I consistently find peeking out of their hiding places, seem to persevere. I haven't really noticed a pattern one way or the other personally. .....
Oh so true, I have a letterbox (Arboretum) that has been found by at least 4 muggles - they've left notes in the log. Last week I went to check on it and it was sitting by the tree (it should have been inside the tree), right next to the trail. It's had over 40 visitors and it's still going strong after 4 years (planted April 2002). I'm completely amazed.
JARS
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Oh so true, I have a letterbox (Arboretum) that has been found by at least 4 muggles - they've left notes in the log. Last week I went to check on it and it was sitting by the tree (it should have been inside the tree), right next to the trail. It's had over 40 visitors and it's still going strong after 4 years (planted April 2002). I'm completely amazed.
JARS
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